Either this is a needless duplicate of T814 or it is a call to leadership about special-treating T814. In either case my participation is irrelevant.

In T790#15491, @EchedeyLR wrote:

I think you were writing about https://kde.org/applications/internet/org.kde.ring-kde which is the KDE version of Ring/Jami

Until recently T814 we didn't know whether it was a PureBrowser issue or a Ublock issue. I think it is fair to assume that as soon as Ublock gets re-packaged in Amber, we can close this down. Some relevant aspects have been touched upon, although not strictly related to the task. A task should never diverge from its intended purpose or duplicate another task. It is indeed easier to merge than to split although enforcing separation is not always easy or even possible.

I think you were writing about https://kde.org/applications/internet/org.kde.ring-kde which is the KDE version of Ring/Jami

sudo dpkg -i webext-ublock-origin_1.19.0+dfsg-2_all.deb
[sudo] password for squid:
(Reading database ... 152660 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack webext-ublock-origin_1.19.0+dfsg-2_all.deb ...
Unpacking webext-ublock-origin (1.19.0+dfsg-2) over (1.18.4+dfsg-2) ...
Setting up webext-ublock-origin (1.19.0+dfsg-2) ...

@jonas.smedegaard Ok, just repeated the steps above. The only difference was that i did not opened purebrowser before installing the 1.19.0 package from bullseye.

Here is a screenshot:

I just tested installing webext-ublock-origin_1.19.0+dfsg-2_all.deb from bullseye in a new image of PureOS Amber in a VM.

I think it is unlikely that anyone in Purism staff will take on the task of packaging a fork of Chromium: Our priority is on a web browser usable both on desktops and phones, and the main contender there is GNOME Browser a.k.a. Epiphany.

Neither KDE nor Gnome can make browsers because neither of the 2 communities are in the browser business. Deny it! So it makes perfect sense to re-use the code base of either Firefox or Chromium with some adjustments. That's what all sane projects are doing. If you don't want to deal with Firefox anymore, then may I suggest making ungoogled-chromium the successor PureBrowser? I'm kindly submitting to your attention the following link and all the links within the link: https://chromium.woolyss.com/ Thank you.

You (or anyone else you might convince to take on the task) are recommended to get your browser of choice packaged for Debian officially. Then if it complies also with GNU guidelines it will automatically get included with PureOS as well.

T814

Until you've got something that is good enough to replace PureBrowser, you should absolutely fix PureBrowser. I've been thinking that Falkon is underdeveloped. Well, with all due respect, GNOME Web is even more underdeveloped. Are you even using it at all? Can we please think deeply and rationally for a second? Can we please not give in to our emotions and think from a technical perspective? Please have PureBrowser fixed! Close it down if it makes you happy but I suggest you leave it on the board. Thank you.

@joao.azevedo Could you please test if installing uBlock Origin package from Debian testing on top of an up-to-date (and clean, no Mozilla or other non-PureOS-origin code added) PureOS amber install fixes this issue?

https://about.qwant.com/ +1

I've just checked GNOME Web and it is not ready for real-world usage. It is very basic and has absolutely no tracking protection whatsoever. Currently the only browser that is usable is Chromium. With Ublock from Google :-)

Thanks for hint. Yes, Metager is on GitLab: https://gitlab.metager.de/open-source/MetaGer

WebKit is in fact the same browser engine that Apple's Safari uses. https://webkitgtk.org/

@todd If we can't deal with this issue in-house, maybe we should out-source it to people who specialize in browsers. What do you think?

https://nabeards.com/posts/pureos-install/

In T710#14825, @elias wrote:

Is there any workaround for this, any way to install PureOS on a UEFI system? I would like to try PureOS on my laptop but it seems I am stuck due to this issue.

In T821#15452, @jeremiah.foster wrote:

The plan is actually to deprecate PureBrowser as Mozilla doesn't share the same goals we put forward and that makes it a lot of work to ensure that our user's privacy is protected.

Understandable and I don't intend to be rude or disrespectful. I have read other posts where this particular request appears to be parked repeatedly. I'm at a desperation point and only intend to imply the desperation and not to offend anyone or hurt anyone's feelings.

The plan is actually to deprecate PureBrowser as Mozilla doesn't share the same goals we put forward and that makes it a lot of work to ensure that our user's privacy is protected.

I don't think this is the way to request for support. Please be kind and read other issues related with your problem first.

@Badger that not was all the idea...

@EchedeyLR thanks for pointing there, but it seems nobody has evidence of fingerprinting by DDG.

Thanks for your details about PureOS.

Dear @jonas.smedegaard ,
I joined this thread because I had two problems I thought were related to the subject matter. I apologize for not providing more information about version numbers, but not for going off-focus. I think you should pay attention, as you have, to what I report for two reasons; I have been solving (and causing) programming problems since likely before you were born, and I have solved the problems I initially told you about.

@emmes Which version did you install from PureOS Amber? Info should be available in /var/log/dpkg.log even if you since removed it again.

I installed three different versions of webext-ublock-origin. 1 from pureOS amber. 2 from github. 3) from gnu. In my hands, they all behaved the same as I described.

Thanks for your additional info, @emmes

emmes would like to comment on his experience with purebrowser-68.02esr from the amber repository.
I was able to install webext-ublock-origin and it initially worked as it should. After an exit and relaunch, the icon was missing from the menu toolbar and the add-on did not work. It can be made to work by going to Add-ons, disabling it and then renabling it. A second problem with purebrowser, which may or may not be related, is that once Privacy badger is installed, it cannot be uninstalled or reported.

If it is the same issue then according to that issue tracker thread it should be fixed with ublock-origin/1.18.10+dfsg-1

@joao.azevedo Yes, that could quite likely be same issue as this one!

Now that i am back online in front of a laptop, just to leave it registered here :)

top and htop are great tools for measuring CPU usage and diagnosing this issue. Fans usually start running at a certain temperature threshold and the CPU reaches that threshold when it is heavily used. The tools show which processes are using CPU, for how long, etc. If we could start with either a screen grab (try screen shot tool) or simply put in your "load average:" data - that would be a great start towards diagnosing issues.

I have the same issue.

@Badger just check the discussion here https://tracker.pureos.net/T156 (do click on "Show older changes" to check all the discussion).

@jonas.smedegaard thank you for the clarification.

@EchedeyLR I agree that this issue is an issue for PureOS. It is not a freedom issue however: That tag has a specific definition tied to https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html (if you think the definition should be changed then please discuss that with the GNU project).

@Badger Thanks for the suggestions. Please, however, file those as separate issues (i.e. wishlist requests).

Additional ideas if we really want to remove Google Search and Youtube too:

Maybe its good to investigate deeper which of those Links actually appear to be annoying us.

It is true that Freedom Issue here is related with non-free software being attached with a software and/or packages, but I think recommending non-free network services should be included on that.

Showing that is like recommending these non-free network services by default.

I don't recognize this as a freedom issue - care to elaborate, @EchedeyLR ?

I would mark it as a Freedom Issue.

Here is why we should tolerate some advertisements on webpages by default:

Ok, then I am closing this. If someone comes up with a reason current behaviour here is basd, we can reopen.

It was my understanding that it was disabled by default.

I agree that Firefox Sync is enabled. I believe it has been enabled for quite some time.

Please do open separate issue reports for each of those other issues.

no no, as I tried to communicate, the provided info is appreciated.

Ok, testing from a VM image with purebrowser with no firefox compatibility mode, i was not able to reinstall uBlock Origin.

I am repeating the process in a VM with PureOS, with a version of purebrowser that does not have Firefox compatibility mode enabled

It is however *not* an acceptable solution to install addons from Mozilla

It is helpful if you can try distinguish stories that involve wandering off of PureOS and (re)installing things from elsewhere, from stories about solely using software provided as part of PureOS.

Thanks for the details.

As an additional piece of information to this puzzle, a user has reported in the forums that uBlock Origin was also removed from his Firefox, but not blocked so the user could reinstall it as well:

thanks - what is probably more interesting is what you did in-between: Did you start PureBrowser while the addon was removed?

@richard.kolla I made a typo in the first test - please try this:

@richard.kolla Thanks for testing!

Step 1 did not work.

but already, getting fixed by only (?) removing and reinstalling the addon indicates that this is a bug in the addon rather than Firefox trying to suppress it (e.g. due to that new Mozilla content blocker perhaps conflicting with it).

@joao.azevedo thanks - what is probably more interesting is what you did in-between: Did you start PureBrowser while the addon was removed? Or did you have PureBrowser running while removing and reinstalling the addon?

Don't know if it adds any new information to this issue. But i got uBlock Origin back by reinstalling it. Removed it and then install again

This might be related: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=931640

Arguably, PureBrowser no longer blocks advertisements, as tracked specifically in T814.

Thanks for the clarification.

My output:

whoops, sorry: wrong package!

Unfortunately, Pocket is again included: Seems Firefox changed between 60 an 68 to embed Pocket in the core instead of providing it as a hidden system.

The package currently in PureOS green - 68.0.2esr-1pureos3 - depends on webext-ublock-origin, and the addon loads fine on my system.

E-mail from customer: